tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post1380676527024369322..comments2023-06-08T04:55:15.496-07:00Comments on How to be Superwoman: The Gospel, Pure and Simple, Part 3: FallenRo Jeanettehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08987957661555552852noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-57103509453066787952012-03-23T21:06:02.954-07:002012-03-23T21:06:02.954-07:001 Corinthians 10:131 Corinthians 10:13Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317815214871469275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-72613561987660435422012-03-23T13:55:52.649-07:002012-03-23T13:55:52.649-07:00So God gave them two contradictory commandments?!?...So God gave them two contradictory commandments?!?! And you think that I view God as mean and forcing people?!? He put humanity in a place where they had to Sin?!? He made everything good and then put Adam and Eve in a place where they had to sin!?! Oh but then he'll just wait in the corner to see who finally chooses HIs way? <br />I have to stop!! You are beyond reasoning with!Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317815214871469275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-47186762810473468382012-03-23T12:46:09.920-07:002012-03-23T12:46:09.920-07:00I'm only going to make one point right now. Ge...I'm only going to make one point right now. Gen 3:7 shows that Adam and Eve did not recognize that they were naked. They did not fully understand right and wrong. VS 16 is when we learn that Eve will bear children. You assume they could before. Why? Becasue God commanded it? That was their choice; which commandemnt to obey. To multiply and sin OR stay in the garden and be barren and still sin becasue they would be disobeying.<br /><br />VS 20 is when Eve is given a name because only after being cast out is she finally able to be "the mother of all living".Ro Jeanettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08987957661555552852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-30033746096981579122012-03-23T10:47:30.684-07:002012-03-23T10:47:30.684-07:00The more we talk the more confident I am in the tr...The more we talk the more confident I am in the truth and the sufficiency of scripture to answer all of these disagreements. When we first started talking I admit that I was nervous that something would come up that the Bible alone cannot answer but I've been encouraged to see how truly sufficient and complete it is!! The Mormon faith (from my perspective) does not rest on the Bible but on the BofM and D&C. The BofM claims to be the fullness of the gospel yet it has needed extensive additions (D&C, Pearl) and there are many core Mormon beliefs that are NOT in the BofM. I am more sure than ever that God has given the complete gospel in the Bible. Anyway this is an ecouragement to me. You probably think I'm just blind or something...Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317815214871469275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-36164820120139843512012-03-23T10:43:27.064-07:002012-03-23T10:43:27.064-07:00The parents cannot be held accountable for the sin...The parents cannot be held accountable for the sins of the child according to Ezekiel 18 (especially vs 19, 20) anymore than a child is held accountable for the sins of his parents. Perhaps that’s what you think I believe? Maybe you think that each person is punished for the sins of their parents or Adam? No we are all held accountable for our own sin and we all do sin. I do believe that we are all sinful and born that way. We are all sinful on our own without any anyone making us so. It’s who we are apart from Christ. We can try to keep the law but no one keeps it perfectly. That’s why Christ died for our sins. He kept it perfectly and took the punishment for us.<br />You seem to be saying that the knowledge of the law is a prerequisite to sin. This does not work with Romans 2:12-16 which says that we all have some understanding of God’s law written on our hearts. Lets say for a minute that knowledge of the law was a prerequisite to sin…so then are people automatically saved if they have NOT heard the gospel? If the law is necessary to becoming sinful that would mean that there are two means of salvation. Either (1) hearing the gospel and trusting in Christ for salvation or (2) never hearing the gospel and so then not being accountable to it. That is clearly unscriptural (Acts 4:12) yet it is the next step in your arguments. There is only ONE way to salvation.Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317815214871469275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-3595204517839930422012-03-23T10:42:13.431-07:002012-03-23T10:42:13.431-07:00The fact that a child dies (or that anyone dies) i...The fact that a child dies (or that anyone dies) is evidence of their sinful nature. Death is the consequence of sin. (Rom 6:23). Does that mean that I believe every child who dies goes to hell? No. There is David who trusted God that he would see his dead infant son again. But also there is my belief that God saves us before we even understand our need for a savior. (Eph 1:4,5 and 2:4,5) This would be applied to all people of any age. You do not agree with this because you believe a person’s choice is a prerequisite for salvation, right?<br />So you still believe that children are innocent even though the Bible says “all have sinned and fallen short”? Then you have to believe it because of the Mormon texts and in CONTRADICTION to the Bible. Psalm 51:5, Prov 22:15, Gen 8:21, Psalm 14:2, Eph 2:3, Eph 2:1-8, Col 2:12-13, Rom 8:10, 1 Cor 15:21 which I shared before. These show the Mormon doctrines to be in error.Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317815214871469275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-74415137377475612642012-03-23T10:40:22.655-07:002012-03-23T10:40:22.655-07:00I also believe that all men will be punished for t...I also believe that all men will be punished for their own sins. (Rom 6:23) I believe that we are corrupt and sinful. (Rom 3:23) I believe that all men are born with a sin nature inherited from Adam. (Rom 5:12-21) <br /><br />So you do believe that everyone sins but that is not because of the fall… (Rom 5:19) You believe the fall is a good thing. That it opened the way for procreation. There is nothing in the Bible to justify this view, in fact I would say that Adam and Eve certainly enjoyed physical intimacy in the garden. He told them to multiply (Gen 1:28) so he had created their ability to do so. He also told them to NOT eat of the fruit. How can doing the opposite of what God commands possibly be a good and God-honoring thing? That is irrational. It’s calling evil good and good evil. (Isa 5:20) Satan told them that if they did disobey then they would be like God. The sin began in their hearts. They desired to be like Him instead of worshipping Him. They were dissatisfied with God’s one limitation. Their hearts were rebelling before they acted. The sin of eating came after the sin of questioning God. They disobeyed Him and by one man sin entered the world. (Rom 5:12) This was not an attempt to live with God or know God. It was an attempt to live apart from Him and His command.Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317815214871469275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6596875307622785193.post-64007810727550342662012-03-20T14:17:32.060-07:002012-03-20T14:17:32.060-07:00That last post took me a couple of hours so I'...That last post took me a couple of hours so I'll have to get to this one later. Give me a day or two. I've still got munchkins to take care of and so I only get nap time to work on responses. :)Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317815214871469275noreply@blogger.com